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The potential and problems of Pantheist Parenting, teaching your children about Nature and Science etc (lifestages)

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What to do when your daughters mother is a strong follower of the baptist faith?

Started by nathan simers. Last reply by Fred Noguer Feb 11. 1 Reply

I respect almost all beliefs and do not want to contradict her teaches but i want try to put a further explanation to what she is being shown. See is only 3 so i have time but what is a respectful…Continue

Children and their friends

Started by John D.. Last reply by Fred Noguer Feb 11. 10 Replies

I would like to hear about anyone with this situation.Your kid comes home from school and tells you that their best friend just told her that she will not be going to heaven because she doesn't…Continue

How to prevent brainwashing?

Started by Giselle Evans. Last reply by Antony Van der Mude Jul 10, 2012. 12 Replies

My daughter, aged 15, started attending church (church of england) with her best friend around two years ago, having first attended their youth club. She has a large number of christian friends and…Continue

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Tooth Fairies and other myths

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by bug zuur Jan 11, 2012. 15 Replies

No doubt we want to encourage our children to be curious, investigative and rational, but probably we also want them to know how to have fun and how to feel positive emotions. What do we do about the…Continue

Best Nature Science & Pantheist books for children

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by Alexandra Z Dec 30, 2011. 16 Replies

Recommend your favorite title here, with author and publisher, what they cover and and why they are good.

What do you tell the kids about death?

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by James Wargacki May 10, 2011. 10 Replies

At certain ages, children can become obsessed with death and fear of their own death. Naturalistic pantheists don't believe in a personal afterlife, so what do we tell our children? What do we do if…Continue

A pantheist school or summercamp

Started by Elise Meetsma. Last reply by Lily May 10, 2011. 15 Replies

Would it not be great to have pantheist schools like there are Christian schools? With lots of science and biology! And a lot of going outdoors. With celebrations of the solstices and equinoxes?What…Continue

Parenting in Mixed-Spirituality Marriages

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by Crystal Robertson-Keele Sep 21, 2010. 5 Replies

How can you resolve the issue of teaching beliefs, if your spouse has a different religion from you?

Alternative to Boy Scouts of America?

Started by Jody A. Murphy. Last reply by Stef Stockman Aug 16, 2010. 6 Replies

Okay, all - I have a question for you: What groups/activities exist in our culture that are similar to Boy Scouts as far as providing a social network for the boys where they can cultivate…Continue

Parenting teens

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by John D. Nov 2, 2009. 9 Replies

The teens are the toughest age for parenting. And the time we live in makes it tougher than ever. Teens are reared as much or more by their peers and the media than by their parents. And puberty…Continue

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Comment by Martin Berka on June 8, 2011 at 2:44pm

I don't think scientific pantheism supports a particular stance. Learning is backed implicitly, by extension of "evidence of the senses", "human rights", and "equal centers of awareness", but that does not lead to a specific system.

That article is subjective, and with regards to something as important as learning, I prefer details. Following interests would be sufficient, given (Jonathan's point) that interests encompassed all the key knowledge areas. My definition of these is expansive. Reading, writing, and math sufficient to survive financially (for the small business owner, this goes through algebra at a minimum) are given. What about science and social studies? In my view, a contributing citizen of the world must grasp the basics of humanity's form (biology, health), past influences and trends (history, though the exact dates are less important than the order), cultures and organization (geography, political science), and current problems (in the case of the environment/sustainability, chemistry).

Additionally, one would expect the added morale and focus on interests to make him a true expert in a meaningful field (I've had time to pursue my interests alongside school, so the outcomes in the case of an unschooler should be amazing), or in some other way provide skills that the world at large will benefit from.

Comment by Jonathan Blake on June 8, 2011 at 9:13am

As a homeschooling parent who tends toward unschooling, I think allowing a child's learning to be largely self-directed is a good way to foster a love of learning and interest in the world around them. Making learning something a child "must" do, like a chore, is a good way to quash their native curiosity.

 

However, I'm not a complete unschooler because there are things my daughters it would be beneficial to learn that may not ever spark their interest (e.g. proper spelling and grammar). Rather, our general approach is to expose them to lots of subjects and learning situations, generally follow their interests, and reserve the structured schooling for core subjects that benefit from structure.

Comment by Rich Blegen on June 7, 2011 at 8:00pm

I just heard the following story on NPR yesterday about "unschooling" and wondered what others thought about this in relation to scientific pantheism.

Here is a link to the story: http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137009154/unschooled-how-one-kid-is-g...

Comment by John D. on February 14, 2011 at 6:16am

Debbie,

But remember, to teach for the belief in propositions that are not supported by rationally decisive evidence is, when successful, indoctrination. That’s exactly what your friends have done to the child.

It’s not ok to teach tenets such as hell, heaven, virgin births, resurrection, or even an anthropomorphic god as fact; it is ok to teach a child to think critically of the irrationality of these specific ideas.

Teach your child that these propositions are nothing new to Christianity but have survived for millennia prior to the first century, Vis. Mithras, Bacchus, Osiris, Dionysus, Attis, etc. Or how about the fact that if the gung ho Christian child were born in India? Would he then be going around asking everyone if they believed in Lord Shiva?   

Comment by Jennifer on February 14, 2011 at 5:39am
Debbie, recently  my daughter called me from a friend's house and ask "Mom, if we're not Christian...what are we?"  I told her she may very well be Christian like her father or maybe she is a Pantheist like me.  I told her we would have the discussion when she got home.  Later I explained to her what my beliefs were and why.  I also explained to her what some other religious beliefs are and why.  I told her that she needed to think about what She believed and not to be concerned with what others believed because she had to feel it in her own heart and think it in her own mind. 
Comment by Debbie on February 13, 2011 at 7:26pm

John, thanks for the book idea, she loves to read so that is perfect.  I am sure my friends are teaching their kids what they feel is important, just as I want to teach mine.  I just hope my daughter doesn't feel the need to tell others they are wrong like her friend does.  The 8 year old actually told me I was going to Hell because i don't believe in God, LOL!!

Comment by John D. on February 13, 2011 at 6:49pm
There are great books out there. There's a series called "This is My Faith" (you can get them at your library) that we read to our children. These books do a great job in explaining specific beliefs in very basic terms. This will help your child understand that people have different beliefs and what the beliefs entail.
I'm a big supporter of teaching critical thinking to my children. There's nothing wrong with scrutinizing certain beliefs, that's how science works. How about asking your child what it means to believe in god?
As for the friend, I can't help but to feel sorry for a child who's been indoctrinated with the religion of their parents, it’s downright abusive.
Comment by Debbie on February 13, 2011 at 2:29pm
Thank you Paul, I hadn't thought about it that way.  She certainly will be surrounded by theistic people and I may be the only non-theist influence in her life.  I want her to be open minded and that can only happen if she has all of the information.  Now the trick is, how to explain it to a 6 year old! LOL! 
Comment by Paul Harrison on February 13, 2011 at 1:44pm

Debbie, I have not faced your specific situation, but I would offer two suggestions.

First, if you have not already done so you and your husband need to agree ground rules about talking to your daughter about your religious beliefs. She should know what each of you believes. When she is older and starts asking specific questions, each of you can explain what you believe on those too. It should not be a question of "forcing" one's beliefs, but simply of explaining them.

If you leave her to figure it out later, that means she will get only the theistic side and will not have the full information she needs to make a choice.

Second, she may know more than you think because she is absorbing it from the society all around her, in school, from friends and their parents, and from TV. Here too, if you want to give her balance, you should explain your beliefs to her.

I think it is your right as a parent to explain your views and not simply allow her father and the wider society to be the source of her views.

Comment by Debbie on February 13, 2011 at 7:29am

I need some advice, please!  Yesterday my husband, my 6 year old daughter and I were at dinner with some friends.  The 8 year old friend asked each person at the table if they believe in God, I said no and all others said yes.  My daughter knows that I don't believe in God.  She has never been to any church and the only reference to any religion she has is with her friend.  Should I let her say she believes in God even though she doesnt even know what it means?  should I even try to explain or should I let her figure it out for herself when she gets older?  It really drives me crazy to hear her say she believes in God and Heaven and Hell when she has no idea what it all means.  I don't want to force my beliefs on her, but I also don't want her to grow up as a "follower" with no independent thoughts of her own.  Any advice from anybody who has been there?

 

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