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How should we eat for the health of humans, ecosystems and planet, and for animal welfare? Please do not debate vegan v. veg v. meat here. For particular approaches to diet, create a discussion. There is also a vegetarian group. (environment, living)

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Conjugated Linoleic Acid, CLA

As of today shop for grass fed, pastured and grass fed finished livestock.
If you are to buy Grass Fed livestock, make sure it is 'not fattened with grain's, but 'Finished strictly on Grass'. A good test to put the meat through would be to see 'how much CLA there is in the meat'.
Grass fed livestock is rapidly becoming what consumers are looking for. But believe me this is but the beginning.
Pure pasture-raised beef still represents less than 1% of the nation's supply, but sales reached some $120 million last year and are expected to increase more than 20% a year over the next decade.

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The average Joe is realizing that the problem is because we feed grains to the livestock. That's right, the same grains which are causing our species obesity epidemics, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases, and many of the cancers in North America. But folks, things are rapidly changing for the better through our hard efforts.
It is just the beginning of a huge, and I mean huge change in the way we grow our food. This is still a much lower percentage than many other parts of the world. We have some serious catching up to do.
In turn this will have the effect of boosting the health of these animals. Less antibiotics, less hormone treatments, less problems with bloating, foaming, acidosis, diarrhea, ulcers, pneumonitis, liver diseases, cosccidiosis, enerotoxemia, feedlot polio, etc... means happy animals, happy farmers, happy animal advocates, happy customers, and happy governments too. Here's why..
Presently 70% of all antibiotics used in North America goes to livestock treatment, because of poor feed, insufficient pasture grazing, and the fattening of of these animals, principally with grain products for three to six months, before they go to market. Remember these animals live only one or two years. Then we slaughter them, and put them on the market for consumption.
We are the junk food leaders of the the world as you know. This is just one more example of our failure at controlling excellence in nutrition.
Humans will also benefit from strickly grass fed animals. There is good reason to believe that a corresponding 20% drop in health care costs will be associated with this reduction in grain usage ( my prediction). I'll tell you how I come to that in a minute.
Should there be ruminant strict grass feeding standards? Absolutely. These ruminants were never made to eat grains. For that matter neither were humans. We do pay the costs of our mistakes. They cause upwards of 70% of our health care costs. $$$$$.
Another test we could use widely for CLA levels in the general public is to test for the amount of Rumenic Acid post-natal women have in their breast milk (a conjugated linoleic acid). A European team of scientists led by Lukas Rist found this out in the late 1970's. They found that mothers eating organic grass fed ruminants had a 50% higher level of rumenic acid in their breast milk. This in turn strengthens the baby's immune system.
Michael Pariza is actually the scientist who discovered Conjugated Linoleic Acid in 1987.
Today we know that CLA is a family of 28 isomers of linoleic acid. These 28 isomers as a family have great health producing properties.

Grass fed animals can produce up to 500% more CLA then ruminants fed 50% hay and 50% grains.
Human beings are not able to convert enough linoleic acid into conjugated linoleic acid. If we do not have enough CLA in our bodies, all our dietary fat will be stored as the physical fat that you see on your problem areas, rather than converted into muscle.
Without this natural red meat CLA, our body's metabolism can't operate efficiently.
CLA in primarily found in grass fed animals, It will mean back to the future for us. What I mean is that things will be the way they should for those animals, and our future will be a bit brighter.
The primary benefits include CLA as weight-loss promoter, antioxidant, cancer fighter, and immune system enhancer.
Stay away from the supplements and join Grass Fed foodshare programs, promoting strickly grass fed livestock.

CLA in its natural form is primarily found in the red meats of ruminants such as mutton and cattle. When eaten for breakfast, lunch or dinner, or as a snack, it helps glucose get into our muscle cells more effectively, thus preventing glucose from being converted into fat. It also helps fats enter the cell membranes of muscle and connective tissue, where the fat is burned for fuel. This is the process we want our bodies to resume. This is the way our body operates optimally.
The key point here is that grain feeding these animals is robbing the livestock and us of the natural benefits of ruminants being grass fed.
We must support those farmers who can prove to us that their livestock is strickly grass fed, for they are at the cusp of a revolution in healthy eating.
Be careful though, many farmers will try and jump on the bandwagon. Why, because they can increase their prices and make a better profit. Those farmers who are true grass fed type farmers have healthier livestock, and a healthier bottom line. With our support, we can make thiese meats the principle meats in our grocery stores.
We have to develop our farmshare programs with these forward looking farmers.
The demand for strictly grass fed livestock will become significant in the next few years.

Discussion Forum

Sweet addiction

Started by Hartmut Friedrichs. Last reply by joy etheridge Jul 13, 2013. 8 Replies

Perhaps the widest spread disease is psychological addiction to sweet things. It is so classical a civilisation disease as any one could be:Animals are built with no restriction on greed for sweet…Continue

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Vegetarianism v meat eating

Started by Paul Harrison. Last reply by Fay Campbell Jun 25, 2013. 20 Replies

This is the place to discuss the veg v meat choice and how the choice affects human health, animal wellbeing, and the health of the environment as a whole.We know this can be a very emotional subject…Continue

The Paleo Diet

Started by World Pantheism. Last reply by Alexandra Z Dec 30, 2011. 30 Replies

The Paleo Diet is a diet we are genetically predisposed too. It is a diet of lean meats, fish, seafood, vegetables, fruits, nuts and eggs. Most diseases currently faced by our species are due to…Continue

Food and Sacrifice

Started by Jay Cavanaugh. Last reply by Stella Maris Apr 14, 2011. 7 Replies

It seems that within so many religions, food and sacrifice go hand-in-hand. Six years ago I started a March ritual of eating only fruits,vegetables and non-processed meats. Some of the benefits are…Continue

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Comment by Fay Campbell on June 29, 2013 at 3:19pm

I tried another new thing today.  I made beet green and chard ships.  Brushed the leaves with seasoned olive oil (you could use Italian dressing) and put them in broiler until the texture was like rice paper.

These retain a great flavor and are so very delicate that they just sort of fall apart on your tongue.  Very yummy.

Comment by Fay Campbell on June 29, 2013 at 1:46pm

For many reasons, I think we should grow as much of our own food as possible.  Even if that's a potted tomato plant on your apartment balcony. 

I'm blessed with too many green beans to eat right away this year.  I've been sharing with my neighbors.  It just feels good to drop bags of fresh vegetables on my neighbors porches. 

And now I'm trying something new since my husband doesn't like canned green beans.  I've blanched them (ten seconds in boiling water, drained and immediately put in ice water bath) whole and then frozen them on a cookie sheet.  When they are frozen, I'll put them in two serving freezer bags for those days when we're dreaming about how good those fresh green beans were. 

My mother did the same with whole tomatoes.  The skins slide off easily after blanching this way.  Then she'd freeze them on a cookie sheet and put the hard frozen whole tomatoes in big freezer bags.  She'd take out however many she needed to use.   Since I don't have a big freezer, I'll probably can any surplus tomatoes.


Comment by Nina DiCristina on August 18, 2011 at 5:35am
Agave is still a sugar. Coconut Palm Sugar is a sugar, stevia is a sugar. Just because it's the lesser of the evils doesn't mean it's not sugar. I'm sure you know this, I just see people at my work put LOADS of agave (in excess it's so freakin' gross) in their drinks because they think it's healthy.
Comment by Hartmut Friedrichs on May 3, 2011 at 1:48am
In Germany it often replaces sugar in ecological products.
Comment by christine giglio on May 2, 2011 at 3:14pm
Hi I just want to share that Agave nectar is delicious on fruit and in tea. A little goes a long way.  Our bodies process it differently that sugar.
Comment by Kelly Riley on June 29, 2010 at 9:56pm
For all Australians in this group, there is a fantastic resource available at called "The Guide to Ethical Supermarket Shopping". It is updated every year and contains a list of most products and brands available in supermarkets across the country. It costs only $6 to buy the guide, but it is also available for free download on the website. I find the guide handy - I keep it in my bag so that I can cross-check my purchases whenever I go to the supermarket. Every dollar we spend sends a message to supermarkets and companies - and the more of us that shop ethically, the stronger the message.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 21, 2010 at 5:08pm
I love a trout freshly caught out of the St. Joe River in North Idaho, and prepared with loving hands. We don't have as many trout as when I was a child. Then, we went out very early, caught enough for the family, and cooked them over a wood fire, served with pancake, wild berries we kids gathered the day before, and some wild greens. The fish from the fish monger just doesn't have the flavor and texture of fresh caught. Farm grown fish taste like mud to me. I do long for those earlier days.
Comment by Charles Kneipp on February 23, 2010 at 9:26pm
Sounds like the ref just gave someone a two minute minor for roughing but I can't see who's going into the box just yet. Oops, it's against the bench for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Comment by Paul Harrison on February 23, 2010 at 11:12am
A caution on debating meat-eating v vegetarianism. This is undoubtedly a very important choice with profound ethical implications. Ethics are based partly on our sense of what is right, which often does involve our emotions - and why not?
However, in our 14 years of running pantheist mailing lists, we have found that this is one of the most explosive and divisive subjects. People very quickly start to accuse each other of various heinous failings.
So that this particular practical living group does not fall into that trap, I have created a separate discussion on veg. v. meat, inside this group.
Please could we discuss veg v meat there? And even there we should discuss it politely and respectfully.
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 23, 2010 at 10:53am
Jay, I am a bit troubled by your statement, "clearly your emotions are driving your logic." There are different kinds of intelligence and one is emotional intelligence. One may have a very high IQ but be a thug. One may be emotional to the point of irrationality, and that person may be unable to think clearly. In any event, to have a reaction to emotional intelligence appears to me to be a discount, trivialization, put-down, and even demonization. I am confident that is not your intent.

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